HOW much for the Olympics?!?!

your having a laugh.

i use the east coast mainline 3/4 times a week from york to london. both gner and virgin are a disgrace, so much so gner are not having their license renewed for the service.

Virgin don't run up the east coast?

GNER being stripped of the franchise is based on finacial instability at Sea Containers, their trust company, nothing to do with the service

I get South West trains everyday and they are always punctual, can't complain with a train every 3 minutes though..

virgin run newcastle - brum, not quite sure where the distinction between east coast and west coast line takes place, but i rarely have a pleasant journey on either a virgin or gner train.

the fact their trust company is financially instable tells me all i need to know about gner - that being that its management is not fit to run a mcdonalds franchise

I was there on Wed! Fuck all there really, it's horrible round Dartford and that. Where exactly will the new stadium, etc be?

It was so obvious this would happen, just didn't think it would come out so soon! I was well happy when we got it, I just hope we don't fuck it up, and make ourselves a laughing stock of the world!

Dartford's in Kent not East London, and yes it is a horrible place.

What makes the journey so intolerable? I'm not doubting, just interested..

Sea Containers are one of the largest comapnies in the world, I think it's all the doing of private equity evil (crooks).. GNER are awful though, I agree..

Vauxhall - Wimbledon .....Paul used to do Clapham Jct - Surrey every day and never had an issue...

Trust me, SW Trains are darlings compared to ONE Network from Liverpool St.. :fuming:

moody un-helpful staff, dirty carriages, toilets that look like they have never been cleaned, the fact you are penalised financially if you cannot book your ticket 12 months in advance.

i don't know, maybe i'm just becoming grumpy with age, but i find my tolerance levels to be particularly low on trains - even more so if the carriage is noisy and i'm trying to work.

Agreed, Clapham to Weybridge every day for 3 months- and not once was the train late, overcrowded or dirty.

Even using SW around London, to get into Waterloo, Vauxhall etc, they are always really punctual.

Still fucking hate using the train though, but when it's a matter of neccesity rather than choice, there's not really a great deal you can do.

Yeah, I agree that I was lucky. Though every day I expected to turn up and it be cancelled, delayed etc- you wouldn't get that in somewhere like Switzerland or Germany.

£3? Costs me £1 on my Oyster card

It's actually £4 now for a single journey.

It pisses me off that it costs the same to go from Covent Garden to Leicester Square (officially the shortest journey) as it does to go from one edge of zone 1 to the other.

I travel 26 (13 one way) miles every day to work, and pay £105 a month for my oyster card zones 1-3… this means that if I don’t catch a single bus / tram / tube/ train to anywhere else in this 31 days other than work, that I pay £4.60 per day… or 17p per mile..

This is the equivelant of a train / car to Durham (13 miles) how much would you expect to pay for that? A lot more than £4.60 a day!

Then factor in all the times I go to Leytonstone, Shoreditch, Stokey, Tottenham Hale, Putney, Kilburn, Balham etc. to see my mates after work or trips out a weekend… further to this, add in the minimum £10er you pay in any UK city for a taxi home after a night out compared with the night bus - and its quite clear that the amount that London travel costs is paltry for what you get…

Brid – I’m on the road a lot with my job, similar to Vinny, I’ve not seen a crumbling road since the last time I was in Europe

I think the oyster cards represent excellent value- with my weeks travel card on it I can make unlimited tube/bus/train/DLR journeys as many times a day.

It's just using cash to pay for the tube that is the issue.