Ableton.

Ableton.

Thinking about giving this a shot.. seems like it could be a pretty powerful tool.

At the min I've been using Traxtor on and off for a few years.. but I've been hearing so much about Ableton that its got me thinking I should start to mess about with it.

Anyone used it before.. any tips and/or sites to help?

once u get upto speed with it u can do everything on the fly, dan, michael and gowansy are canny good with it

There's tutorial DVD's out there to give you some urrr... tutoring. You should pay for it. I wouldn't recommend getting it from here...

http://www.free-ebook-download.net/video-training/1544-ableton-live-tutorial-dvd.html

Get an Evolution uc 33e, they are top.. either that or a Behringer BCR/BCF depending on what you want to use it for...

I got an M-Audio X-Session Pro but they are just too basic... edit: I have a BCR 2000 now, and use it for playing out live

All these controllers are under £130

save yourself some money and use the keyboard and mouse. the qwerty keyboard doubles up as a 1 octave piano keyboard and is easy to jump up through to the different octaves you'll need (using z and x)

switch using ctrl+b in the piano roll and paint the notes in with one click, hold and move the mouse up or down to change velocity's. use the headphone tool to hear the notes quick before you commit - then ctrl+b again to go back to the pointer

above all, get comfy with the program before you decide what controller you need - it makes no sense buying a drum pad to then discover you prefer keying out melodies

Depends on what you use Ableton for really?

aye, i almost edited that entire post there - i'll leave it for anyone it may help for the production side of things

still cant get me head around people disc jockeying with it

i'll try and read a bit before i post next

Its a lot of fun dj'ing with, editing tracks with loops and samples... Once you painstakingly warp all your tracks and choose the effects you like its ace.

it sounds like murder - but then so was scratch live when i made the library for that

Thinking of getting Serato like. With Traktor I'd probably have to upgrade my laptop.

Now they are all done its easy to sort each new track i get.

Problem with Traktor is the beat matching can be difficult at times..

At least I find it that way.

The main reason I wanna try and play with Ableton is due to the warping and mapping features.. but it seems pretty hard to work tbh.

Nothing like anything I've ever used before..

It seems quite daunting at first but once you get the hang of it, it becomes really quite simple. Get a cracked version off a torrent of 6, play about with it before you buy it

ive been like that for 2 years

its classs like ableton, 6+, really good to use, hard as fuck if uve eben usin stuff like FL etc, pvd's choice of software, only thing a dont like about it isits a bastard to get a midi to work on the dott with it if ur running it on windows, deffos a Mac recomended like, windows seems to work better with Ableton Lite

i think live 7 has a global pitch bend in the bpm / groove / quantize / metronome block, top left

although that might only be useful for those mixing to and from ableton with decks - its too early to test

When i match them, it usually works quite well to zoom in on the track, drag it to the first beat, and then right click and 'warp straight from here' - use the metronome! another thing is to cut the start of the track to the first beat, using an mp3/wav splitter program... then every track is automatically at the first beat and you only have to drag the '1' to the start of the track...

Persevere, its worth it!!