Car Sharing lanes

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    Car Sharing lanes

    Now i've heard some utter gash come from Mr Blairs neck of the woods but this really takes the piss

    I see absolutley no point. Yet another waste of money, yet another way to screw up the roads. Yet another way to make money, and yet another way to waste police time, as patrols will be enforced to make sure that non car sharers dont use the lane, and that passengers really are passengers, and not a blow up sex doll from Ann Summers.

    What if you DO car share, but you drop off your passenger before you get to the lane?

    And what if you genuinely can't car share?? Take me for example, nobody I work with lives near me..most of them on the gateshead side of things. And getting a bus would take ages.....mine to town, town to team valley, at least an hour and a half

    What a complete and utter joke.

    Rant over!
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  3. BRID

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    It will cost hundreds of millions to implement, and will no doubt be a massive headache to administrate and control on an ongoing basis.

    Also, whats going to happen in and around the areas where normal motorways turn into 'sharing lanes' .... a mad dash off the junctions? queues? ....

    .......................... once again - More exacmples of how Blair and Co seem to be treating this country like some kind of experiment where regular hardworking people have to foot the bill each and every time, and GET AWAY WITH IT by insisting that its 'investing in our future'.

    We need a credible alternative to the current solution in the form of public transport - or more roads to be built. What we dont need is punishment for every damn thing we do.

    Once again, i wonder when the penny will drop.
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    Public transport desperately needs to be improved. It costs more to get to London by train than it does driving (unless you get an advance ticket)!
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    They'd need one of those RAC men with the suck on boots to be able to keep track of that. How on earth would you check that one out, will never work and I reckon it'll cause more congestion as will add abother lane to the roads where I bet will become "no car lanes" at some ridiculous point when you can't move out of the lane and get wedged between buses and the lane nxt to you and end up driving to somewhere a good 15 mins out your journey because you still can't get out of the ridiculous "no car lane" and people are tutting at you as they fly past thinking look at that idiot trying to be clever by using the bus lane.....no FOOL I'm stuck!!!!


    and relax.......
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    train prices are joke!!!1 :mad:
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    i said it before and i'll say it again



    who the fuck is tony blair?
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    Sorry youve lost me.
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    China and Japan now have ultra high speed train systems in place, while ours gets worse each and every year.... and more expensive.

    If re-privatisation isnt a realistic option, then how about a state built or some kind of heavily subsidised (or whatever) project to link london to edinburgh, or the most populated parts of the country via 600kmh train systems.

    Personally, i think people would rather leave their cars at home if they knew a fast, reasonably priced and reliable public transportation system was in place. I know theres alot of the time where i leave my car at home and just put up with public transport which lets me sit reading a book and blasting music with my ipod, rather than crawl along on the A3, M25 and M5 into Richmond - The worring thing is that it almost costs the same amount of money to park at 9 pounds per day, and spend a tenner on petrol to do the 60 mile trip.... than it does to take public transport.

    For instance, yesterday a return to where i work via london was 22.50 !!!! (Should have been 14 quid but even that is way overpriced)

    Honestly, we should spend less on people who cant take care of themselves (100 billion a year on the NHS, up from 33 billion in 1997!) ... and more on turning this country into a place that can compete with the rest of the world.

    We do far too much symptomatic treatment, and not enough actual real INVESTMENT at a core level.

    Essay over.
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    on average i spend about £200 a week on train travel to and from london. the utter contempt i have for virgin can simply not be expressed in words. gner are only marginally better though.

    cunts the lot of them.
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    True, its cheaper for me to drive to work than it would be to get the bus, its only a 14 mile round trip. I spend roughly £20 a week on petrol but lots of that isnt work miles...

    by compairson the bus would be something daft like £5 a day altogether.
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    There was something in the Gazette about this other night about the train that does 300+mph in i think its Beijing.

    Apparently, note the word apparently, Middlesbrough and Newcastle are considering the options to bring the fisrt track of its type to this country and would cut journey times between Middlesbrough and Newcastle to 10 minutes.
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    but who wants to travel from newcastle to middlesborough??
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    Me when i come home :p
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    where do you travel with virgin from on the east coast? I say this as I've been using them for 7 years on a regular basis and never had a single problem, just book more than three days up front and its ridiculously cheap? I really rate virgin on the whole, especially as I can get to london for less than a tenner :D

    arriva (trans pennine) on the other hand...

    screech > the point - 4 people in one car saves = 3 x the pollution, 3 x the congestion, 3 x energy consumed, 3 x chance of a road related accident, 3 more parking spaces...

    it seems the argument is based on an undertone of resentment towards sharing your car rather than car pooling?

    britain spends more than any other country in europe on public transport and it makes no difference, the root of the problem is restraining car use and unnecessary journeys at a local level through encouraging or enforcing sustainable transport - walking & cycling.. the jocks bummed out the edinburgh charging scheme after public referendum, which resulted in the scaling down of the proposed tram network and wider public transport improvments, needless to say the government won't be asking the public what they want again..

    see how the car lane goes, its a step in the right direction at least and most of the whinges directed at this project are similar to the ones we heard pre congestion charging in london 2003, all of which have been dispelled...
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    I don't get what the car sharing lanes are? Can someone explain?
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    A lane on a road where you can only drive in if you have a passenger in your car.

    its an attempt to get less cars on the road so people car share going places to reduce pollution.
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    its lane on a motorway that cars carrying 2 or more cars can travel in.. its meant to get princesses like you who wont sit on the metro for fear of contracting an sti to make your brat travels more environmentally friendly...

    if you have four people going to the same place in individual cars, you use three times the amount of energy, produce three times the amount of emissions, use up three times the amount of road space, which means three times the congestion which adds to journey time and again energy consumed and increased environmental damage and you also spend less getting to work..

    I think theres a sufficient number of people travelling to work with more than one person in their car to make this viable already...
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    I don't disagree with that. But what I am saying is that many people, such as myself, don't have the chance to share their car for the journey to work...so it's unfair that people in that position are punished.

    If someone lived in my area, then of course, it would make sense to share cars, alternate days, or weeks, or whatever...saving on petrol and such like.

    This should be a choice, not a requirement.

    The journey to work for me though...my house > a69 > A1 > team valley > work.
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    In that case, they are already car sharing...so how is that going to reduce pollution etc?

    What you are saying is true but only if everybody car shares, which will never happen. Fair enough, a lot will, but i doubt it would be a majority.
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    i said that counter the 'ghost lane' theories.. in that there is a sufficient base rate to begin with to make the scheme initially viable...

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