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  1. loopyloosy

    loopyloosy Registered User

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    does this sound right?

    the matter with my router was the fact that blueyonder is DHCP, which means it is dynamic address. I have changed it to become a static IP as I was having connectivity problems, which meant that everytime the address renewed my whole internet would go down.
    I have now assigned it a static one, this problem should not occur.

    now, the question on my tuna lips is

    DOES THIS SOUND RIGHT?
    loopyloosy, Oct 16, 2005
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  3. Freddy Flintoff

    Freddy Flintoff WE MISS YOU JOHN

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    You can only have a staic IP if blueyonder have given you one which i doubt they have and if they have then you need to ask them what it is not just put any ip in
    Freddy Flintoff, Oct 16, 2005
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    loopyloosy Registered User

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    well i phoned blueyonder, and they said that I could put any static Ip in???
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  5. Conway

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    That sounds a bit dodgy.

    Virgin (My ISP) use dynamic IPs, when it changes it only takes my router about half a minute to adjust.

    Try setting your router's redial period to the shortest value possible.
    Conway, Oct 16, 2005
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  6. loopyloosy

    loopyloosy Registered User

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    and at the min im using 192.168.1.5 - which seems to be working just fine - hence im online? and if its set to static and im online nowt can change that really?
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    ermmm then how is it unique and what if another person has the same IP how would the data get to the right person??? Not many ISP's give out static IPS cos there are not enought top go round hence DHCP and dynamic addressing
    Freddy Flintoff, Oct 16, 2005
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    Freddy Flintoff WE MISS YOU JOHN

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    You should be able to keep that IP untill you log off, when you log of the IP goes back into the pool and picke dup by another user so you wont be able to use it next time you log on, the only way is if they allocate you a static address and dont put it back in the DHCP pool
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    loopyloosy Registered User

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    aye, but like i say, when it happens it knocks the whole thing off, and it doesnt come back even by restarting the computer/modem/router, i had to re-install the whole thing just to get back online. surely i cant be expected to do that each time it happens?
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  10. Freddy Flintoff

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    As i said you DONT have a static ip you have to leave it at dynamic
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    loopyloosy Registered User

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    so with the end number only going from 1-200, only 200 people can go online with blueyonder bb at the same time? im so confuddled
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    loopyloosy Registered User

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    so how can i do it then? :(
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  13. Freddy Flintoff

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    No they will have more than 200 ips and in any case yur using 192 address which is not broadcast over the net so they must be using NAT (network adress translation) which again means you cant have a static IP
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    loopyloosy Registered User

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    so how am I online? and what do i have to do to make it work?
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    I think that is the IP address for your computer or router though.

    So when you're entering it in the TCP/IP properties, you enter the computer IP first, then the Subnet (normally 255.255.255.0), then the Ip for your router.

    The next 2 numbers (DNS) come from your ISP, ring them about those :up:
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    It is working is it not ???
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    loopyloosy Registered User

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    the DNS numbers you can only get when online, so I went to the router page and copied the DNS settings from there, into the properties of the net connection. The linksys bloke said it should correct the problem of getting knocked off. lu
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    loopyloosy Registered User

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    yeah its working, and here I am online, using those details right now.

    does it mean that when I log off it will be fucked again?
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  19. Freddy Flintoff

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    In your TCP setting i would tick the automatically detect settings and your PC should pick up from the router which in term should get its DNS from Blueyonder
    Freddy Flintoff, Oct 16, 2005
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    Right. This is probs gonna confuse you more but here goes:

    That IP address you have there is a private address. Routers tend to assign them to PCs or devices connected to it.

    For example, I'm on a router and my PC's assigned IP is 192.168.1.101.

    Any IP that starts 192.168.*.* is a designated Private IP, it's like internal phone extensions on a company phone system.

    Your router will usually be the gateway for this private network (they usually have an IP of 192.168.1.1).

    In addition, your router will have an IP that is visible to the outside world (82.14.70.222 for example.) What the router does is allows communication between the internet and your PCs.

    However this 'public' IP is usually dynamic and assigned by DHCP, it usually has a 'lease time' too, which is how long you are allowed to use it before it expires.

    When it expires it boots the router off the net and the router has to redial to reconnect.

    The solution is to tell your router to re-connect within a certain time of it losing the IP (Mine is set to re-dial within twenty seconds of being disconnected - set yours to something similar.)

    If you can't find the option try reading your router manual. You're looking for the 'Connection Keep Alive' option or something similar within the router setup.
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    loopyloosy Registered User

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    that doesnt work, thats what i was using in the first place. It would work for hours, then suddenly go off, without mucking about with it. which is what led me to believe that it was the fact its a dynamic address. The blueyonder bloke said that i should use a static one as it could solve the problem, so i did that, then copied the settings from the router page into the computer tcp/ip settings, rather than automatic. This means im online now.
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