Car Sharing lanes

the rail industry is a joke, having been a part of it for a year i can confirm its full of beaurocracy and jobsworths... all gner are interested in are profits, the customers come a distant second.

virgin are renound as the worst in the business, but i do quite like their trains (when they are on time).

jeez you're in stupid mood today...

having travelled up and down that way for years its a busy line, there are commuters in both directions and plenty of people go both ways for shopping and drinking/clubbing... plus other journeys. its nowhere near the busiest line in the country but would be a decent guinea pig to trial a new train/line.

and its spelt middlesbrough

chris, we're past the days of giving people the choice, you might feel you've been excluded or punished but in the bigger picture the personal cost to you is nothing in relation to the external costs you exert driving to work, roads are the only utility in the country which is free at point of use so in theory and practice you get off lightly only paying £20 a week..

I don't know what your complaining about screech, you'll get to work quicker and if you do manage to find someone in your area you'll save money

im sure its better to trial it on a quiter line, and if its successful it will almost certainly increase train users and cut traffic.

the implementation would no doubt take time and the inevitable and dreaded engineering works, so a busy southern commuter line into london may not be an ideal place to test.

i got a fine off GNER ages ago for not having my railcard with me

still havent paid it

they said theyre gonna take me to court for like £3 of their money

ouch brid, i'm suprised by the stupidty of that comment!

there isn't a credible alternative, does this mean we should just give up? car ownership is rising rampantly, especially in the north east and south east..

its a faustian bargain, people love their cars, you can provide the nicest cleanest trains in the world and the public still don't/won't use them unless you have sufficient population density, look at germany (esp munich), the europeans have realised this and instead of continuing to shell out hundreds of millions of sparkling tram and train systems (incidently the UK has more miles of light rail than any other country in europe) they have come to the realisation that the only way to cut congestion, reduce pollution and improve safety is to as chris says 'punish' road users and stop them using their cars, its quite obvious really..

its a synergy of ideas, pay as you drive nationwide road pricing, city centre congestion charging, workplace parking levvies, car pooling lanes, moderate predict and provide roadbuilding schemes, public transport improvments... there is no one soloution..

possibly, but a problem could be that edinburgh - york is on the east coast mainline, extremely busy and has enough disruptions already.

i would love it to be between newcastle and m'boro for obvious reasons, between the two stations there aren't too many stops so infrastructure upgrading would be minimal compared to many other lines. of course it depends on whether itsthe line through darlington or the one through sunderland but im sure wherever it happens there will be many reasons for selecting the line that we dont know about.

the only developed countries in the world with major road building schemes are australia and america, both of which have a total disregard for a global environmental agenda...

the asian countries which you talk of are either developing nations, or have incredibly stritch road pricing schemes (singapore / japan)...

the global transport agenda is to lower car use and encourage sustainable transport with a range of options rather than large scale engineering projects..

to justify such a scheme the cost : benfit has to be 1:2 just to open up existing lines, even higher if your talking fancy trains and and fancy lines, rest assured it won't happen in our lifetime!

the governments having enough strife meeting the statford cross rail deadline in london for the olympics.. on target for... 2013

It said something about the North East trying to improve the economy and encourage commuting throughout the area and it would bring jobs and stuff to the area.

Its also not just about testing it in the country its about an area having the balls to risk the testing and put it in place and the councils think that it would be a boost for the north east having this line in place, but i cant remember the full article and i dont have the paper any more.

Seems Midlesbrough council are serious about regenerating Boro with the ideas theyre coming up with the ideas for the new state of the art college then the first major casino in the counrty aswell that were drawn up.

I was reffering to the flipancy of it

Which proves my point and all the thinking espoused by transport planners in the last 15 years, you put your personal benefit ahead of everything else, hence the faust reference.. you only see the cost to you, which I'm not in the slightest bit denying and nor is the government, but the majority of car users have a blind ambivelance to the scale of the massive social, environmental and economic external cost car use disposes on the country..

i might have a look on the net for it later

its about time they started regenerating boro, after the farce of the teesside development corporation and the middlehaven site the people deserve some serious investment... afterall its hardly endearing when people have to go through wasteland to get to the riverside which has partly led to the bad image... the area has potential but its never realised.

Ive saw a few things on the news but not really paid much attention but theyre all on the riverside that theyre meant to be investing in.

There was people petitioning to get the go ahead for the casino and hotel etc in town the other day as it would be a major boost for the area loads of jobs and could see tourism increase to the area as it would be the first major casino in the uk of its kind.

aye ive heard about the casino, personally i think its a good move for the local economy and anything that improves middlehaven will be a bonus, its been 10 years of that ugly wasteland since the riverside was built, with false promises of investment so i hope this is finally genuine.

buy a fucking smart car then