drone

Yeah thats how we all started next you will be listerning to gabber and hardstyle and staying up for 3 days on drugs with 2 in the title or are surposed to be plantfeed

Nah I listen to Hardcore and Speedcore and rarely stay up past 1 day

My work comes first, my weekend second

I was joking but close enough.

Its all about balence and moderation.

which I think most people get, maybe Pike is right, maybe this is just a way of getting rid of the bottom feeders.

KaHn

if alcohol were suddenly introduced into society it would be far worse than anything drone cane bring about. I agree with James that it feels toxic and I won't be doing any more, not least because i think it is heart attack material. But banning it? is that our society's only answer?
there is just too much banning going on now in all spheres of life, from not allowing pubs to decide whether they want smokers to taking photographs of the police . We are adults and we should have the right to do what we like. All we need is the correct information on which to base an informed decision. If this stuff is as bad as is said then people will decide off their own bat not to use it.
Ecstasy is probably the least toxic and least addictive and least socially harmful drug that society has ever seen and banning it has led to a steady stream of ever more harmful stuff trying to take its place. More banning will just accelerate that process

I agree with so much of what you are saying there, as ciggies feel toxic are toxic yet we stlll kill ourselves with them.

Harm reduction is the answer as most human beings have a need to get out of it in form or another to keep sane and deal with world,more so i would say as you are younger as get older you tend to take longer to recover,have more reponsabilities so pick the moments and substances with more thought.

As for mdma i so glad when i was young and caining a substance it was that as it seems to have done relativley little harm and alot of good to me as a person.

Great interview from a former cainer and writer on Dj History

www.djhistory.com/interviews/jane-bussmann

I see what you're saying but there would be no sense at all in keeping drone legal just because alcohol/tabs are bad for us...

or any sense in banning it?

No but I agree with limiting the distribution of it, any 13yo with a paypal account can buy it at the moment.

The Aussies have a cat D drugs, which basically limits their sale to over 18's which seems to work on new things while research is carried out.

Like buying alcohol and tabs.

From The Telegraph looking at drugs from a different angle....

In all the coverage in the papers about mephedrone – the new as-yet-legal drug also known as meow meow and connected with the death of a number of unfortunate young people recently – there has been little focus on the economics. Which probably ought not to be a surprise, since this is an emotive issue. But economics helps explain why drugs like mephedrone have gained popularity in the past year or so: quite simply – because they are so cheap.

The average cost of a gram of cocaine in the UK, according to DrugScope, the independent experts on these things, was £39. The price for a gram of mephedrone is closer to a tenner. A gram of ketamine costs half as much as the cocaine, and when you bear in mind that, according to analysis by the Forensic Science Service the average purity of cocaine these days is 26.4pc, compared with 45pc only five years ago (and 63pc in 1984), the value comparison is pretty stark.

Even in the illicit world of drugs (or not so illicit, yet, in the case of mephedrone), price still matters. We know from statistics that the proportion of 16-24 year olds who indulge in these kind of things has been pretty steady (at around 10pc) for some years. So let’s not panic about that. What’s changed is the kind of things they tend to consume: consumption of cheaper drugs like ketamine and mephedrone has leapt in the past couple of years.

Another often-unremarked dynamic is availability: mephedrone has similar effects to ecstasy tablets. So it is probably no coincidence that mephedrone’s rise in popularity has coincided with an a sudden and unprecedented shortage in ecstasy in the UK, something which is linked to the seizure of 33 tonnes of sassafras oil (one of the main ingredients of ecstasy) in Cambodia in June 2008.

With youth unemployment running at the highest level for over a decade, and Britain still stuck in the jaws of recession, I would be shocked if youngsters hadn’t become more price conscious – including about drugs. Now, a separate issue is that mephedrone is clearly too easy to get hold of – something which will not be the case after its almost inevitable ban. But, as I say above, this isn’t the obstacle many people assume it is. The evidence suggests that there is a certain small proportion of people who will want to take drugs even if they are illegal, and whether something is or isn’t illicit won’t change this. Over time we can and should try to reduce this through rehabilitation and education (drugs are anti-social and psychologically and physically degrading at best, potentially fatal at worst), but experience shows that simply making things illegal is not the silver bullet so many seem to think. On the contrary. Price dynamics, on the other hand, do seem to change peoples’ behaviour.

And here the evidence for mephadrone is not encouraging. Since Ketamine was made a class C drug in 2006, its price has actually fallen from £28 a gram to £20. This almost certainly suggests that drug dealers are cutting costs by mixing it with God knows what else. The same will almost certainly happen with mephadrone if it is outlawed: it will become more difficult to get hold of (but that won’t matter for the vast, vast majority of those who want to try it), the price will fall, and so will the purity, making it more dangerous.

Finally, distressing and upsetting as it is to hear of young people dying on what are supposed to be nights of celebration and fun, let’s not forget that alcohol is a far more dangerous drug, killing far more people. What makes mephedrone different is that many of the kids taking it do not know the dangers. The lesson surely ought to be to warn people of these risks and make it more difficult to get hold of, rather than shoving it blindly into the criminal world, where it will become far more dangerous?

they could tax drone though? the Telegraph article talks a lot of sense (never thought I would type those words) and I agree that kids shouldn't be able to buy it obviously. It should be regulated and sold by licensed and controlled sellers like alcohol and tobacco is. People should be told the true facts about it and then make up their own minds.
However when it says "drugs are anti-social and psychologically and physically degrading at best" this is simply not the case with ecstasy. I would argue it is a very social drug. Much more so than the legal ones.
If ecstasy were available legally nobody would even look at drone.

I heard that the government are looking to bring in a change to the law that would automatically ban any substance that could be classed as a substitute for illegals, as they do in the US.
It's not true that there is a limitless supply of ecstasy or coke substitutes easily made by tinkering with the molecules. Each time you change it you change what it does and it's reactions with the brain are very complex and not easily replicated

I don't think Drone should be 'regulated and sold by controlled sellers' at all. Drone needs to be banned, and if anything, E made legal. It's kind of what you said above, but I don't agree with the drone part.

Are people still banging on about this?


It's vehemently shit, let them ban it.

Its defo goin to get banned!! theres no question about it, all the horror stories in the papers and stuff! theres no way they will keep it Legal.. the public would kick off big time

drone will be banned and nothing else will be made legal. We all know that. I just wondered if people thought that was the best thing to do?

The only answer is Legalise E then nobody will fuck about with anything but the best