so which country is america gonna invade next

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  1. Alexander

    Alexander Registered User

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    the east if full of fucked up countries, apparently a guy in afganistan is going to prison for life because he became a christain and stopped being a muslim. wtf is that all about, as if its a crime to abandon islam. How are these countries allowed to have there owns governments. Surely its best to bomb them all and have done with it.
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    Chris S Monkey Tennis?

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    Hey I havent seen JJ for ages. Whats he up to??
    Is he still workin on Abu Hamza's appeal?
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    It's not all that complex is it? The best way to try to understand the actions of a person is to try to understand the motives that lead to those actions.

    Failing to understand an adversary or even worse putting the motives of an adversary down to them being evil or mad is a major fuck up. Be it in war, politics, business, whatever. It's all the same, understanding other people's view point is a very important part of the process of either outsmarting them or finding a compromise.

    That's how I see it anyway. :)
  4. Lee

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    i agreee you need to get into the mindset of the enemy to conclude why they act the way they do, but with iran its a waste of time, theyre led by extremists. and i cant understand the feelings these people.
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    Rob, once again you are a bastion of common sense.

    It makes me cringe when we (or rather, the US) tell other countries that they may not have nuclear weapons on the basis that they might use them whilst we (they) do.

    How much better if we did away with ours, THEN came down like a ton of bricks on countries that do? We have plenty enough conventional weaponry to deal with this sort of threat, and we would at least be justified in calling for reduction of nuclear arms if we had none.

    I have no desire to see the iranians with nuclear weapons, any more than I do any other country. But they have a right to nuclear power, and if there is good evidence that they are developing nuclear weapons then lets see it before we decide.

    Once again, this is rank hypocrisy of US foreign policy that continues to inflame the sentiments of the world. If it annoys me, fuck knows what it does to an Islamic extremist.
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    I think a lot of in comes down to view point again. Iran are extreme because they say (only words lets remember) they want to destroy a country but we aren't extreme for invading a country with little international support? Can you not see why from the Iranian point of view we are quite exteme in our actions? How do you think the average person in the middle east feels about us? Do you think they see us as peace loving people who respect their way of life?

    I don't find it hard to see why they might want nukes. Infact I find that easier to understand than why we invaded Iraq.
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    brown tongue alert :lol:

    you trying to get your name changed to "andy loves rob"? :p
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    It beats Sleepy :cry:

    Rob knows I'll give him a verbal battering if he says anything silly :love: :lol:
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    haha, keep up the brown nosing and you might get your old name back... but be prepared to return the favour :D
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    yeah to be that stupid you might even believe iraq doesn't have WMD's ;) ;)





    Iran has for many years been the 'way in' to the less stable middle eastern states for the west.. the americans can fuck about at their peril..

    I'm with iran on this one, I don't understand how people like Lee lack the basic reasoning power to be able to comprehend why.

    I dread to think people like him actually have this impression that iran is a country full of 'sand niggers' running around throwing spears at each other with towels on their head...

    Get real dickhead, here's a little picture for you as I fear you might struggle with anymore long words.

    [​IMG]

    they don't even live in tents :eek:
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    scruf Registered User

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    No they aren't you fucking tool :lol:

    Iran has one of the most liberal thinking middle eastern populations going...
  12. Lee

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    :lol: :lol: :lol: every country should be allowed nuclear fuel, but not every country should be allowed to develope it, iran must never ever have access to nuclear armaments. it will be a total catastrophy.

    yes id say most middle easterners hate us. we invaded a muslim country. our cultures are so far apart that it makes understanding either of us difficult.
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    Have a think about 'our' heads of state for a second...

    Safe in the knowledge we knew from day one there were no WMD's, give me a valid reason for invading Iraq, a country we virtually wiped off the face of the earth...

    and 'setting a nation free from human rights abuses etc.' isn't a valid reason, otherwise we'd be bombing the shit out of every country on the planet bar Switzerland.
  14. Lee

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    firstly i said they were led, not they are

    :lol: :lol: :lol: give yourself a kicking in the balls you complete and utter goon

    take this bit of iranian foeign policy

    taken from al jazeera itself.
    _____________________________________________

    Ahmadinejad: Wipe Israel off map

    Wednesday 26 October 2005, 19:03 Makka Time, 16:03 GMT

    Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has openly called for Israel to be wiped off the map.

    "The establishment of the Zionist regime was a move by the world oppressor against the Islamic world," the president told a conference in Tehran on Wednesday, entitled The World without Zionism.

    "The skirmishes in the occupied land are part of a war of destiny. The outcome of hundreds of years of war will be defined in Palestinian land," he said.

    "As the Imam said, Israel must be wiped off the map," said Ahmadinejad, referring to Iran's revolutionary leader Ayat Allah Khomeini.

    His comments were the first time in years that such a high-ranking Iranian official has called for Israel's eradication, even though such slogans are still regularly used at government
    rallies.
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    :lol: :lol: :lol: youve lost the fucking plot you absolute clownshoe.

    ive never called them sand niggers or implied they dwell in tents.

    youve just come up with a profoundly wank comment, ive never had any ounce of respect for you and when you post wank like this i dont think i ever will. :lol:
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    No country should have access to nuclear arms, but they do.

    You really don't have a clue about the country you talking about do you? Do you even know where Iran is?

    and stop with the 'cultures' are so far apart bullshit, the nearest you've ever come to culture is a donner kebab.
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    you can believe many things about our decision to invade. ill never know the exact truth so i cant comment fully. i can say that the people of iraq once stablised will have a life without the agression hussain imposed on them.

    i believe they never had any WMD but i do believe they sought it.

    my view on the iraq war is this. hussain was a dictator who commited genocide on the kurds and killed his own people, he needed irradicating. just like milosovic. we went to war to remove him but also show the middle east that the US runs the show now. and i do believe oil and contracts for the rebuild were the deciding factor in the case for war.

    i was all for the removal of saddam but the cost has been too high
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    Notice I said 'population' and not regime or anything about the goverment, the people of iran almost universally hate the regime and what it stands for, pick up a newspaper that isn't The Sun or The Mail for a change ;)
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    explain yourself, you go off on one as if you know me. you do not know me atall, and i know exactly where iran is.:rolleyes:

    and for you to think our cultures are not far apart makes you look like a big flacid cock.

    and your point about nuclear arms, unfortunatley they were created and mass produced and no nation is going to give them up because they act as a deterant. with rogue nations attempting the procurement of nuclear weapons no sane nation is going to give theirs up.

    think S.Korea - N.Korea
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    well why is khomeini held in high regard. he is the one that said israel should be fucked over before ahmadinejad said it.

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